Curse

fleshvirus · Sep 26, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

I Asure you that this build is great, ive tested it and it realy Gave the enemies Something to think about.

here it is ---> http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/guild...uild-2400.html

if you dont like this Build. Tell me whats wrong with it

Wretchman Drake · Sep 26, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

That elite attack is way too long to get, I've tried the Apply Poison/Sever Combo and found it helpful. It's not a bad build, but I suggest getting rid of that Elite for something like Hundred Blades, something energy based so you can spam adrenaline and energy attacks more consistently than just relying on adrenaline and base dmg of your weapon.

Otherwise it's not a bad build. For even more degen, this sounds funny but I tried a Mark of Rodgort Warrior with a Fiery Dragon Sword and took down some people kind of quick with -7 degen from burning alone and with the addition of Sever I believe that's -2 degen, so combined is -9 degen which is 1 close to max.

MercenaryKnight · Sep 26, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I don't think final thrust is a good choice. The point of dragon slash is to use with builds that require adrenaline skills, but then if you use final thrust you lose the adrenaline you built up.

fleshvirus · Sep 26, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

That elite attack is way too long to get, I've tried the Apply Poison/Sever Combo and found it helpful. It's not a bad build, but I suggest getting rid of that Elite for something like Hundred Blades, something energy based so you can spam adrenaline and energy attacks more consistently than just relying on adrenaline and base dmg of your weapon.

Otherwise it's not a bad build. For even more degen, this sounds funny but I tried a Mark of Rodgort Warrior with a Fiery Dragon Sword and took down some people kind of quick with -7 degen from burning alone and with the addition of Sever I believe that's -2 degen, so combined is -9 degen which is 1 close to max.

thanx for the Houndred blade idea, since i can poison multiple targets aswell.

about your funny build, Make it and send it to me please

fleshvirus · Sep 26, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

I don't think final thrust is a good choice. The point of dragon slash is to use with builds that require adrenaline skills, but then if you use final thrust you lose the adrenaline you built up.

i didnt realy Use it when i got full adrenaline, I rather use it when the Enemy has VERY very low health, just incase he tries to run away and heal, so a quick Painfull blow will do the work

Pick Me · Sep 26, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Hi fleshvirus,

I took a look at your build:

Sever Artery
Gash
Dragon Slash
Final Thrust
Bonetti's Defence
Tiger Stance
Apply Poison
Healing Signet

stats are:
Strength 11
Swordsmanship 10
Tactics: 12
Wilderness Survival: 5

Assuming I read this correctly.

Is this for PvE or PvP?

If this was for PvE, then you are missing a Rez Signet and I doubt that the computer AI is thinking about health degen that much.

Hopefully you have runes, if you don't, then your swordsmanship is too low.

You are now thinking about 100 blades, which is fine, but doesn't do much if you are in a 1v1 battle.

Anyone with a defense (blocking or evading) will stop your attacks. If this is a PvP build, monks will suck up those conditions so they won't affect the person you are using this on.

Have you thought about using Sun & Moon Slash?

kanuks · Sep 26, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Why not using a virulence build ?

flurry
sever artery
virulence
gash (Deep wound is pretty good with massive degen, makes the life go down 20% faster)
standing slash
3 supports skills of choice, or simply more attack skills

Thats -10 degen spammable faster than your build with apply poison.

Also u can use virulence even faster with desperation blow and his clone, but since ull need dol signet not to get kd, it would only be good on Solo PVE.

fleshvirus · Sep 27, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pick Me

Hi fleshvirus,

I took a look at your build:

Sever Artery
Gash
Dragon Slash
Final Thrust
Bonetti's Defence
Tiger Stance
Apply Poison
Healing Signet

stats are:
Strength 11
Swordsmanship 10
Tactics: 12
Wilderness Survival: 5

Assuming I read this correctly.

Is this for PvE or PvP?

If this was for PvE, then you are missing a Rez Signet and I doubt that the computer AI is thinking about health degen that much.

Hopefully you have runes, if you don't, then your swordsmanship is too low.

You are now thinking about 100 blades, which is fine, but doesn't do much if you are in a 1v1 battle.

Anyone with a defense (blocking or evading) will stop your attacks. If this is a PvP build, monks will suck up those conditions so they won't affect the person you are using this on.

Have you thought about using Sun & Moon Slash?

it's a Definitively a PVP build and some monks cant heal their conditions all the times, as fast as he Uses mend aliment or something, Then i keep hitting him.

by the way, did you want me to replace The elite and Final thrust for those two?

Yakumo · Sep 27, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleshvirus

by the way, did you want me to replace The elite and Final thrust for those two?

Replace Final Thrust with Sun & Moon Slash. You can build up adrenaline quickly and then find yourself just spamming Dragon Slash and Sun & Moon.

fleshvirus · Sep 27, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

ok thanks

Flashy · Sep 27, 2006, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Meh I don't really like that 15 energy Idea... I played this build in Ab

1. Eviscerate
2. Axe Twist/Axe Rake
3. Executioners Strike
4. Bull's Strike
5. Rush
6. Healing Signet
7. Frenzy
8. Apply Poison

Change Twist or Rake for Resurrection Signet if you are going for PvP

Like the other said... 10 Adrenaline is long... Too long if you ask me

You might wanna run this build if you really wanna go for the 10 degen(its my build)

1. Glyph of Energy
2. Mark of Rodgort
3. Sever Artery
4. Gash
5. Final Thrust
6. Frenzy
7. Healing Signet
8. Conjure Flame/Resurrection Signet

The problem with this build is, you need a backup that can slow enemies down or can make you move faster... Might wanna change Frenzy for Rush but u will lack on speed then cause its possible to spike down a target when u use Mark + Sever + Gash + FT... For Ab u can change CF for Rush

-7 Degen and -3 = -10 degen

Spydergst1 · Sep 27, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

I agree with the hundred blades idea.
Hit apply poison, tiger stance then hundered blades in this order. Should work good. I might try this at some point in the future.

jummeth · Sep 27, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleshvirus

it's a Definitively a PVP build and some monks cant heal their conditions all the times, as fast as he Uses mend aliment or something, Then i keep hitting him.

by the way, did you want me to replace The elite and Final thrust for those two?

You better come up with a good reason for not bringing a res sig in PvP.

Your stats are poor also. With only 10-11 sword mastery you aren't even doing full damage with your sword.

Please understand that 10 degen is 20dmg... a warrior's auto attack is typically 30-40 damage per second.

Things missing:
Speed buff
Res sig

As people have said already, that dragon slash synergies very poorly with Final Thrust. IMO Final thrust is better than DS and you should run a Utility elite instead.

Max out your Sword and take them from strength and tactics. NB: 15energy takes a warrior 22.5 seconds to recouperate (unless you want to sacrifice even more damage by using a zealous weapon)

Bonetti's shouldn't be on there even as an energy management. Its completely passive and as a warrior most of your problems comes from non physical damage.

Bruce Brutal · Sep 27, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

i think that w/e mark of rotgort build is pretty nice, and you dont see those kind of builds much, but on the other hand im not realy someone who likes frenzy becouse of its double dmg effect, realy enoying against ele's though... so i would take tiger stance instead, but i think its a nice build

Flashy · Sep 28, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Yeah Frenzy is hard, since my build aint got a cover stance to break Frenzy... But the MoR build goes through everything, Touch Rangers - HH Wammo's - Monks everything(except whan target activates some kind of evading/blocking)... You really need someone to snare the target or to speed you up and to cover Frenzy with Protective Spirit(unless you run the +10 Armor while in a stance, then you will take like 10% more damage + a stance enhanching shield)... The fun thing about this build is that you just build up adrenaline then pick out a target that isn't likely to move away, then you unleash everything on that target while prolly the monk get distracted by an other player and you take down the other character(its a 400+ damage in nearly 3 secs solo)

Tiger's Stance + Hundred Blades isn't very good

U have a higher chance that 1 guy has activated a blocking or evading skill which will end Tiger's Stance

LightningHell · Sep 28, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Drop Apply. It's far too expensive for a warrior.

You better have a hax (and a very good one at that) to warrant not having a Ressig.

Drop Bonnetti's. Seriously. Drop Tiger's, too.

Get Frenzy and Sprint, and learn to use them.

Quivering Blade is...err, fine, fine...

You have to have at least 14 sword (if you're going Korean), or 16 (preferred).

Not much else to comment, except I prefer other elites.

Flashy · Sep 28, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

With a 24 seconds lasting time and a zealous hilt Apply Poison isn't gonna be a big energy problem, as long as you use adrenaline attacks

Munanko Roha · Sep 28, 2006, 08:05 AM // 08:05

I prefer using a full degen build with a R/W instead of a W/R, so I have less problems for E-Management and I deal at least the same amount of damage (running everytime Swordmanship at 12). I use a snare (Hamstring) instead of a running skill, Tiger's Fury as an IAS, I apply 4 conditions to a target (poison, bleeding, cripple and deep wound) and take ViM as my elite to be self sufficient. To complete the build Whirling Defence and Ress Signet, but of course it's nothing more than a RA build...

Ogel · Sep 28, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

For people slamming the lack of rez sig:

You don't need it in AB or FA/JQ. Just PvP there!

clawofcrimson · Oct 27, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

~~~well according to guildwiki~~~~

you can have a firey sword and use apply poison as well so...

ask your buddy ele to bring mark of rod.. and use apply poison and sever along with MOR and you get uber degen.

-3bleed-4poison-7burn = 14 degen throw in a couple degen mesmers and you can drain them dry.